Support Blender Development by buying DVD training 5: Chaos & Evolutions!

I am in germany, so it should arrive soon. Yay yay! can’t wait to watch it…

The explaination for the installation on the DVD is for (?) Linux user? The link for windows sends through to a site almost exclusively in Japanese. The simple double click & it will install does not work on windows and makes for a sorry start. Haven’t started watching as I too would like to see the patch used…

…and this is why open scource doesn’t win friends easily - plug & ?

There’s a zip on the dvd for windows, which u can easily unzip and use, although the script doesn’t work for me, which should start gimp, you can also start through the gimp 2.6 in the bin folder, which seems to work and have the patch working (the mixbrush is there anyway).

But yeah it’s too bad there isn’t any good explanation (atleast as far as i could find) about the painter patch for windows. And I really don’t understand why I’m getting a unicode error.

Ha Windows users, sorry !
As an open-source DVD project it’s normal to be centered on a 100% open-source solutions ( in priority I mean ) . I couldn’t have time and money to afford all type of licenses of proprietary operating system just to install them and test. I hope you understand.

Btw, my girlfriend have a Windows xp machine , so I will try on her computer and I will write here on afternoon how to do a clean install of Gimp-painter + the brush kit on this kind of system. I remember I did it easily on one Xp computer, but few things to tweaks to run perfectly and clean install.

Still haven’t got mine - so haven’t seen this problem yet. I am mostly a Windows user at my place (though I have a Ubuntu box on my right & a MacBook Pro on my left whilst I type this) so this would affect me.

As an open-source DVD project it’s normal to be centered on a 100% open-source solutions ( in priority I mean ) . I couldn’t have time and money to afford all type of licenses of proprietary operating system just to install them and test. I hope you understand.

I can understand the open source focus and see your angle; but when the blurb for purchasing the DVD says the following (emphasis mine):

Chaos & Evolutions includes Alchemy and GIMP 2.6.6 patched with GIMP-painter for Windows, Mac OSX and Linux, as well as a customized brush kit, and all WIP files.

Reading that and then not getting a Windows version that works looks pretty bad and would get me pretty damned annoyed had I not been following this thread to be prepared for it. Most people don’t have a “spare” machine like me for this and claiming to have something on their that isn’t (or at least isn’t working) comes across as unprofessional.

With that said, when I get it - I’ll look into getting it working on my XP laptop and my Windows 7 desktop. I also hope it works on the MacBook Pro (though there isn’t a suggestion it doesn’t yet) as that is my “portable” machine and hence the most likely one for me to be painting concepts in.

I have just received the DVD this morning and it is so worth to buy it, I have just read the About and Tools sections and I have found informations that I have been looking for in the last 3 years. Everything is made simple and efficient, I am sure that the learning process will be so productive. Compared to this DVD Gnomon Workshop is just lame and it is even twice cheaper.
MERCI!

Just got my DVD and so far I’m very pleased, it’s looking great.

One technical thingy I bumped into is the gimp-painter .deb package provided on the DVD won’t install on my 64-bit (Ubuntu) system. I get the message: Error: Wrong architecture ‘i386’.

Does anyone have a tip where I might find a package that would work for a 64-bit Ubuntu 9.10? And if there’s no such package available, where can I get the gimp-painter plugin? For some reason I’m having a hard time locating even the source code.

Thanks!

@EmileXXI : Waoo Thanks for the coolest feedback ever ! You are the really first public after the Durian team and Ton to discover the DVD.Your reaction are really important to me.

@BTolputt
> Yeah I know, it’s a shame. Thanks for your patience. The DVD contain the Gimp-painter installer, and their is just some tweaks to do on it.
But don’t throw the stone at me if it’s not a clean installer ; I’m not the developers of this software. Just a user as you. If the installer is bad , complain to the author who compile it. I did a tutorial ( link under ) to make a cool installation from this *.exe file.
I hope you will enjoy it !

For Windows users :
I created here : http://davidrevoy.com/?article31/installing-gimp-painter-on-windows
a complete how-to on installing Gimp-painter on Windows machine.
http://davidrevoy.com/data/images/blog/2010d/16-yay-running.jpg

@cornell :
Yes , I know the author didn’t distribute build for the 64bit system. But I knew some users install it. If I remember well, Ben, from the Durian team installed it with forcing the architecture. Not sure it’s the best way. But I have a link under, ( in french sorry, but terminal line are the same in all language ) but can be usefull for you to grab the sources :
[ edit : english version here Many thanks to chris_0076 ! : http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364346 ]

For 64bit Ubuntu users :
http://www.cahierdunadmin.fr/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ubuntu-logo.png
I saw a complete how-to on the Blender-Clan ( Fr ) :
http://blenderclan.tuxfamily.org/html/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=309395#forumpost309395
It’s in french. But in the immediate, a bit of ‘Google traducing’ can start to help and put you on the way, terminal code are the same in all language. Thanks to the user SylvainR for this complete how-to, if I have time I will try to traduce it in english.
[ edit : english version here Many thanks to chris_0076 ! : http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364346 ]

Thanks for the link Deevad! I’ll try it and use the source if it doesn’t work.

I watched all the tutorial videos except for the last and it’s really a great DVD. I learnt a lot and it was well worth buying the DVD.
One of the simple little things that made my eyes pop was a simple thing that wasn’t even the focus of the tutorial - I have always been very annoyed that the iwarp filter has such a small preview that made it useless for small details in a big picture. I never realised you could get closer in in the preview just by selecting a smaller portion of the image!
Just that thing alone makes the DVD gold for me. And it’s full of that kind of stuff!

@Cornell : Thanks for the good comments, that’s very valuable to me. For the Iwarp windows ; true ! I discovered something last time : ( that’s why I didn’t use in the dvd )

  • Open Iwarp ( in Gimp ,Filter > Deform > Iwarp, for other who read the thread )
  • Maximise the windows
  • Press “reset” button… Magic ; the preview should grow to the size of the maximized windows ! ( except if picture is little, just grow to 100% view size, I understand and it’s logical ) Now I do it all the time almost. :slight_smile:

I did not even know iwarp existed, this is really nice.

Now for something different: i just installed gimp 2.7 (beta). I was hoping the gimp painter patch thingy was allready merged in but it isn’t. Does anybody know if that is even planned? It is a pitty, because i really like the single window mode, tilting brushed and group layers. I guess you can’t have everything at once :rolleyes:

@Loolarge : Really sad , I know. The approach of developers always failed about this patch. So, it will be a patch/fork abandoned in the next Gimp. And cause the original author stopped to work on it ( and I understand , if he can’t merge his work ) no adaptation will be done.
Next Gimp you try will be a regression for digital painters :smiley: Hopefully Krita’s developers do actually a wonderful job of development to got a full featured digital painting application free and open-source.

Watch the conversation of the author Souichi TAKASHIGE proposing the patch here :
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg15246.html

The question asked by Ramon Miranda, the main author of GPS (Gimp paint Studio Brush Kit )
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg16958.html

So is this more a myPaint/GIMP DVD or does this also cover basic drawing techniques?

@accessoire : Yes, I don’t explain really the software itself ( cause features change, buttons move, and things get fastly outdated ) , but a technique / a method of digital painting mixed with some basic drawing techniques and theoretical content. A workflow for digital painter that want to work with a team, clients , and have some key steps to get crits from the work, redo , redo till getting a final version. That’s basically the content of my teaching class, and the way I saw more result on my students. A way to work professionally.

The example are done mainly on 1 software ( Gimp+Gimp-painter ), but you can easily follow the DVD with another digital painting application, and the same in a Mypaint, Krita or Gimp in 5 years I hope.

EDIT : a screencapture of the video menu can be seen HERE

Too loose … :o

Ha ha ,yes , this is my city -Toulouse prounonciate like “Too loose”- :slight_smile: with the volcano clouds of Eyjafjallajokull from Island and the general paralyzed airplane in Europes, I can still wait my copies :smiley: Too loose

Ok, now files for Mac / Apple computers I found around internet :
http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/apple_logo-full.thumbnail.jpg

I didn’t tested ( never tested ) them cause I don’t own a mac. But here the link from the author of the Patch , Souichi TAKASHIGE :


http://sourceforge.jp/projects/gimp-painter/downloads/33617/gimp-painter--2.6.2_081103-1_macppc.dmg/

Some users complained about as I read on internet.
Normally the website “http://gimp-painter.blogspot.com/” give a Mac build, but it look down or broken since few days only. Too bad, first deadlink of the DVD. The file they provide is on the DVD, btw.
I saw this if you are interrested to talk with the original mac author :
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=753764

Happily I’ve downloaded the build the authors provide and cause it’s GPL software, I can redistribute it. I pasted the link on the server of the Blender Foundation, find it here :
http://download.blender.org/durian/GimpPainter-v2-6-6-Mac-Intel.dmg

Give feedback if it works, it will be useful for many users. Thanks

It’s good to see that you make the effort to answer everybody, this is very pleasant thank you.
I have read on Blender Cookies that you are an advanced blender user. So I permit myself to ask you if soon or later you would do some videos showing how you merge Blender in a 2D work flow. I mean how you could use it as a main tool or secondary-support tool for mate painting for instance, I don’t know if I am clear enough.
Maybe on a new DVD ?

@EmileXXI : Antother DVD ? may be, but surely not yet :slight_smile: I die to do some new artwork and find back some time for drawing , painting ( and not do video editing work ^ ^ ) .
Some tips about this paint-over technique can be read on this old WIP on the 3DVF forum ( french , but Google traduce can help ) : http://www.3dvf.com/forum/3dvf/WorkInProgress/2D/2d-fantasy-landscape-sujet_591_1.htm

Thank you very much indeed. That will be good reading.