The eggs

[enricoceric]

Hi all,

This is a scene I modelled some times ago and I rendered it with Blender internal without much satisfaction mainly due to the lack of radiosity, in spite of the usage of AO. I revisited it, made some changes and rendered it with Yafray and GI. For the container, I used clouds procedural texture with huge bump. I also used a procedural texture for the cockle.

Modelled : Blender
Rendered : Yafray
Postprocessing : a few color correction and DOF

C&C are of course welcome

http://users.skynet.be/myline/3D/9.jpg

[skypa]

I really like it. Two things that bother me though: the yolk is way to reflective and the eggs could use a tiny bit less specularity. Despite that, good job. :)

[BgDM]

Fantastic. Very, very realistic.

The egg white seems to be a bit more like glass than fluid like. Maybe a bit more opaque. Also, the yolk seems a bit too reflective imo. Not much, just a tad bit too much.

BgDM

[Blenderist]

Nice.
Yeah the yold is too reflective.
And its also too orange. Should be more yellowish.
Otherwise great.

[enricoceric]

Thanks to all,

Yeah, I made some corrections on the yolk, less reflective and more yellonish.

[Zazu]

Shit!!! I can't believe how realistic it looks...:eek:
excellent work with the realism enricoceric.
5 stars

Stefan.

[Myke]

Great work...but...that paper texture isn't doing it for me. It just seems odd to me, looking so real yet so CGish. Probably because it is only a bump map and not a real displacement map. At first I didn't even know what was worrying me about the picture...

But other than that stunning work and the eggs are simply fantastic :)

[Nobody]

Superb work,
Is the black area on the inner part of the broken shell supposed to be where the membrane has separated from the shell?

[qu@d]

Very nice! Just one nag from me, though. The cross that appears on the peaks of the eggbox mould.

[Blenderist]

Much better.
5 stars!

[lubrio]

Oh God, it looks so real... congratulations! :D

[Claws]

As always, you really know how to squeeze the juice out of yafray :)

[The M.h.p.e.]

Wow great image, man!:eek:

As already mentioned, the cardboard/paper stuff material isn't really right. Looks
too slimy and low-detailed. Also, the eggs might be a bit too rough in the surface
to be chicken eggs (I assume they are chicken eggs...?).

Keep it up! Hope to see an update from you giving it the last notch upwards.
Then, I'll cast my vote (obviously can't be anything but 5 stars, but out of principle,
I'll wait and see). :)
//Mathias

[greenlig]

Looks awesome!!

The cracked egg...the edges have some shading issues, like there arent enough vertices or something...not quite sure.

Looks amazingly realy though!!

kudos.

greenlig

[FishFace]

Great work...but...that paper texture isn't doing it for me. It just seems odd to me, looking so real yet so CGish. Probably because it is only a bump map and not a real displacement map. At first I didn't even know what was worrying me about the picture...

But other than that stunning work and the eggs are simply fantastic :)


I agree... Somehow the bump appears to be.. too regular, almost. Very difficult to place, and minor, but...

Not sure what the crosses are for, my eggboxes don't have crosses. Also, eggboxes 'round here have squarer humps than that, but... :)
Someone else said that the eggs are too rough... Just ever so slightly, I agree :P

The one new thing I have to say is that the pieces of shell appear to have no thickness - unlikely the actual broken eggs, where the detail on the edges is fantastic.

[thoro]

This already looks very, very good!

Here are some thoughts that might help making it even more realistic:
- the paper might look better using displacement (as mentioned earlier) and maybe some colour variation on the texture
- I think the egg bump texture needs to be finer and less strong
- the eggshell looks a bit too thick (the one that's close to the camera)
- the egg yolk looks too flat, I think should be more spherical as long as it's in the shell

Keep up the good work.

Thorsten

[san_diego_james]

EXCELLENT! Much better than mine:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4347202453599014811&q=happy+birthday+from+kids+to+mom

www.geocities.com\san_diego_james\eggfamily.jpg (http://www.geocities.com\san_diego_james\eggfamily.jpg)

BIG CRIT: The edges on the broken shell in the lower right are horrible. Horribly regular I mean. It looks like you just deleted verteces and left the steping stairs effect. all you need to do is manually move some of the edge points (almost all of them)

The problem with the cardboard isn't really the lack of displacement, but the actual way the light is interacting with the box. it needs a little sss

[Cuby]

That's truly remarkable!!! Very realistic, great texturing, great lighting, great modelling, and great render overal! Only I do agree that the edges of the egg in the lower right does not look realistic.

[Popsy]

Wow... I could seriously smell the egg carton... I can't believe this isn't real, except for the egg edge on the lower right, which I only noticed when people pointed it out anyway! 5 stars from me!

[garphik]

Absolutely stunning !!
great work,
Q: how much time did it take to render the thing ?

keep up the good work, 5 *
cheers

[fmurr]

Hi all,
I revisited it, made some changes and rendered it with Yafray and GI. For the container, I used clouds procedural texture with huge bump. I also used a procedural texture for the cockle.


Nothing else to say than "great job man"
a very good study of the reality.
how long did it take you to render this picture ???

A+

[Leichim]

wow, that is impressive. Very nice.
The edges of the broken egg are somewhat unrealistic in my opinion.

[mattsixclaw]

this is awesome! never seen anything like it. I love the quality and detail! brilliant job from me!

[spacestrudel]

How many chickens had to die for this render?

[Edeehem]

Another great work from you enricoceric
I do have a feeling of "deja-vu" when I look at your image. I have a vague memory of russian dolls and something along those lines.

[enricoceric]

Thanks to all,

I made some minor changes to fix some of the problems you mentioned, mainly the yolk color and the the edges of the lower shell. I will try to work on the container material and on a less bumbed shell version.

The rendering time was about 1h15 on a core 2 duo 6700 with one processor activated. Indeed strangely I couldn't use the two processors, with this scene and only with this one, as soon as I select two processors in the yafray tab, the rendering enters in an infinite loop :confused:

@san_diego_james : Yours are great too, much more alive ! Year SSS whould be great ...

@spacestrudel : At least one ! ;)

@Edeehem : Yeah, as mentioned in my post, this is an old work I did first with the internal renderer, this Yafray version is improved compared to the previous one and you are right for the russian dolls, great memory guy ;)

C&C still welcome

[BgDM]

Moved to the gallery section. Well deserved.

BgDM

[5_on_it]

Way better than I could ever do. Great work!

Some of my crit's are the same as others
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1: Bump on the egg surface.. just a smidge too high.
2: Cracked egg shell edge just isn't right... looks more liked ripped paper
3: The carton itself looks a little off the closer it is to the camera. Not sure what it is exactally though.. specularity too high? not sure
4: Make the yolk more round.

Other than that I would say you have a winner!

[enricoceric]

Hi,

I made the last changes :

. Less bump on the egg shells
. More bump and displacement on the container material
. Less regular edges for the broken shells

Thanks again to all

[Saxofoner]

Damn, I thought only the cracked one was blender, in a photo! You've done it again, master of materials!

[Charlesworth999]

Terrific work. Keep it up!

[Alvaro]

Hi Enrico, very good work, you are really mastering yafray

[Master Danix]

The eggs look realistic,but the box look like CGI,but i´ts very cool

[new_neo]

I can't see it....

[sundialsvc4]

I don't find the extremely narrow depth-of-field particularly convincing. It comes across as an intention to cover-up something (which it probably is).

When I look over this scene and compare it to my mind's-eye view of "reality," my general opinion comes down to too much detail. The small break in the eggshell behind, draws the eye and then draws attention to the fact that the edge of the crack "doesn't look quite right," which subsequently draws the eye to more-closely inspect the other edges, where it finds the same flaws. Had the original crack not been there in the first place, the other edges might have been overlooked.

But you know, edges are often where you notice "CG flaws" first. In a real photo, knife-edges are actually pretty hard to spot, because the light and shadow generally does not bring them out. The edge of a knife is really only defined by its specularity: you don't see the edge itself.

The egg-carton surface is superb, and the eggshells are good although they have just a bit more sharpness than I would expect.

Another point: they probably have "more sharpness than I would expect" because, in a photographic studio, I would instinctively take steps to soften that surface, ideally to a not-explicitly-noticeable degree. A couple of softboxes, with slightly different colors on each, and a choice of redder vs. bluish tones. When you compare a CG picture to "something else," you're probably comparing it to a professional studio photograph, where this sort of subtle image-manipulation probably was done.

It would be perfectly fine, imho, to apply such manipulation to the raw render-output, e.g. with Photoshop or GIMP, as a way of getting the most-desirable effect.

[JCTiger]

I agree with the above poster on some aspects, but i love the texture of the eggs. When you get up close and personal with an egg, you can see the same tiny little bumps, and they match perfctly with your picture.
Same stuff about the edges though.

JCTiger

[daniel_nieto]

I think your img looks so great!!! it looks like a real photograph! congrats!

[digiman]

good looking

digiman

[Naive Amoeba]

Wow! Virtually photorealistic! This renders* me speechless!


*intentional pun

[Marve]

I really love this, very very nice. The only thing that I would change, is the edges of the cracked
egg.
If you look at this photo http://tn3-2.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.deviantart.com/i/2005/214/4/3/Cracked_Egg_by_Jammurch.jpg
you see that the edge is very straight where yours is very .. expressed, uneven, the cracks
are too fine, imo they should've been more straight.
Still a great image here :)

[kjknohw]

I agree... Somehow the bump appears to be.. too regular, almost. Very difficult to place, and minor, but...


The paper bump map is scaled up of what it should be. It looks like stone now.

[booga]

holy cow - or chicken, that is awesome. being close up like that often highlights deficiencies, but with this it makes it seem more real.

[ecgilboy]

Nice piece of work!! And you could have added a beak of a young chick coming out in one of those eggs......

[Quantum Anomaly]

First of all, your piece blows my mind. As a noob I'm still stumbling around trying to figure out how to make objects that suggest even a hint of similarity to their real-world counterparts and you're making a near mirror image of reality. (Not that it's always about photorealism) And this goes for all of you pros posting in this forum, so hats off. With that said I believe I can still contribute some constructive critique: The cracks in your egg shell are much finer than in a real egg. Try cracking open an egg and study it. Photograph it if it helps. The cracks are not so fine. Your cracks almost look like ripped paper in some parts. Perhaps if one were to saw an egg in half such effects could be achieved, but not by hand. Also, your yolk might be a bit large. But better to investigate for yourself than to go by my description alone.
Cheers,
-QA

P.S. Reading the rest of the posts I just noticed others wrote similar replies, but I'll leave this up in case it helps.
Also, I'd like to hear more about how you went about making the cardboard.

[hessiess]

Nerley perfect image wish I could do this!:)

The sticky up bit of the egg carton in the foreground gives it away that it is a pace of cg art.

[Slance]

It's ok....... Nah, just kidding of course... :D :D too realistic actually :D

[JoeSchmoe]

The egg white seems to be a bit more like glass than fluid like. Maybe a bit more opaque.

BgDM

Actually the white would be more transparent, but more membrane-like and less glass-like. Changing the amount ray transparency refraction would do it.

[Samipe]

I don't like that shell piece near egg yellow, it looks like floating...

[xrqlz]

Great work, great work. The only thing that bugs me is the little bits of broken eggshell. They just don't look quite right. They look more like they were added as an afterthought imo. Great work, and keep blending.

[Sabby]

It looks like a real,but i don' t like eggs even i don't like to smell it

[mvz.]

The skin of the broken egg seems to be paper but the textures are cool, really nice scene.

[BBJam]

1337^2.45 :)!
have you herd of Inidgo renderer, it is very realistic but VERY SLOW (your image would take DAYS!)

[DanielSmith]

It is a fascinating image.

[strhunter1986]

I realise it is a photograph!! Awesome work!!

[afro.thunda]

I want to cook dem :]

[tedkarenm2]

very real looking. I like the open egg.